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Travellers turn up at Milford Way protest against new site for them

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: February 25, 2013

By richard youle

community rally  Members of the   Penplas community  gather to protest against the proposal of a travellers' site at Milford Way, opposite Penlan common.   SWAH20130223C-021_C

community rally Members of the Penplas community gather to protest against the proposal of a travellers' site at Milford Way, opposite Penlan common. SWAH20130223C-021_C

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PROTESTERS against a second travellers' site in Swansea had a surprise when travellers dropped by to check the rally out.

A couple of members of the traveller community got out of their vehicle and cast their eyes on leaflets being handed out by Leo's Community Action Group.

The travellers said they had to live somewhere — but took a dim view of the Milford Way site, opposite Penlan common.

It is one of five short-listed potential sites currently put out to consultation by Swansea Council. The large patch of land was formerly home to occupants including Leo's Supermarket and the Penplas Inn — both later destroyed by fire.

Louise Bolam, on behalf of the action group, said: "We want something that will create jobs and benefit the area."

Asked if she had anything against travellers, she replied: "I have got nothing against them, but it is not the right area for them."

Mrs Bolam said she had not been convinced by an article — entitled Gypsy and Traveller mythbuster — in the January edition of the council's newspaper, Swansea Leader. The article dealt with issues such as fly-tipping, tax and crime.

The article also pointed out that Gypsies and travellers had fought and died in both world wars.

The action group's leaflet said somewhere suitable was needed for travellers, but claimed "cultural clashes" might arise if the Milford Way site was chosen, due its proximity to "diverse housing types".

It also claimed there would be a "dramatic loss" in the value of the homes close by.

The action group favoured a new community centre instead, plus commercial and residential development.

The leaflet said: "The council needs to look at the needs of the whole community and look at what would benefit hundreds of people rather than just a few travellers."

Penderry resident Bill Hughes, who was at Saturday's protest, suggested a children's play area.

"This is an expanding community," he said.

The consultation on the potential sites runs until the end of March.

The other four sites are the former greyhound stadium, in Cockett, the rear of Parc Melyn Mynach and proposed cemetery, both in Gorseinon, and Swansea Vale, Llansamlet.

Penderry councillor Terry Hennegan said he felt the Milford Way site would suit affordable housing or an amalgamated Portmead and Blaenymaes primary school, should the need ever arise.

He added: "The travellers should have a say in it themselves."

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  • GSvale2  |  February 27 2013, 3:19AM

    by willEvs " I'm sure if the people took the time to get to know some of the people from the traveller community they would see that they don't have tow heads and for the most are law abiding hard working people just like you and me. most of the Gypsy Travellers i have ever met have been very kind and law abiding citizens who just want a quiet life and somewhere to stop for a while or even a bit longer who knows? I think I have solved the traveller problem willEvs, You should buy a lottery ticket right now, you must be the luckiest person alive to meet the 0.00000001% of travellers that are actually law abiding citizens. The odds of winning the lottery are 14 million to one, you could use the winning to help out these poor so called travellers.

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  • maxmin  |  February 26 2013, 10:51AM

    Willevs. Answer me this. Are the travellers going to pay the taxpayer the full amount for any rectification work done, removing rubbish repairing damage etc. If they are they they should state this immediately. Or better still since you are fighting their corner will you stand surety for them? This requires a yes or no answer. If anyone would care to send me an email address I can send photographs of the mountains of garbage left behind when three traveller caravans took over some land for just a few days.

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  • paul0453  |  February 26 2013, 8:58AM

    John SW4 - John Hague was on the working group that drew up the list of sites which was then handed over to the new Council. I repeat, he is not a councillor now, so therefore he can't be on the panel which has since been disbanded anyway.

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  • JohnSW4  |  February 25 2013, 10:28PM

    by paul0453 He is still on the Gypsy council working for the relocation!!

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  • JohnSW4  |  February 25 2013, 10:25PM

    by willEvs This should clear up your concerns about house prices and where the people of Swansea East are concerned! And your concerns well I hope you have the moral to canvas you immediate neighbors and persuade them to ask for the next site to be located as close to you as possible! And please watch this!! http://tinyurl.com/dxu6sd9

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  • paul0453  |  February 25 2013, 10:15PM

    John SW4- John Hague is no longer a councillor. He lost his set as an Independent councillor last May.

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  • willEvs  |  February 25 2013, 9:02PM

    I was really pleased to see that some Gypsy Travellers had turned up to the demonstraition at last some sense and reason. I'm sure if the people took the time to get to know some of the people from the traveller community they would see that they don't have tow heads and for the most are law abiding hard working people just like you and me. most of the Gypsy Travellers i have ever met have been very kind and law abiding citizens who just want a quiet life and somewhere to stop for a while or even a bit longer who knows? I would like to ask Lou-Penplas re your comments about house prices going down can someone name this estate agent who seems to be quoted a lot in various articles saying if a second site is built houses nearby will be devalued is this fact? where i live we have a large asian community i wonder what would happen to me if i said the same as remember Traveller are protected by the same laws as any other ethnic group. One more question re the old Leo's how did it burn down?

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  • Lou_Penplas  |  February 25 2013, 5:42PM

    "cresswell1" Where do you live? If you want a travellers site near your home you are most welcome to have it! Some people have worked hard all their lives and paid for what they have got, why should our homes be de-valued to make way for a travellers site that will contribute nothing? The Penderry area has a strong community and that was shown by the amount of people who turned up on Saturday. This community is standing together to ensure that the former Leo's site is used to better the community for the benefit of all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • cresswell1  |  February 25 2013, 5:02PM

    come on you load of morons, they have to live some where,get on with it

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  • JohnSW4  |  February 25 2013, 4:44PM

    by Zoomer The last figures for just cleaning up the Park and Ride that's lorry load after lorry loads with JCBs yellow bags full of god knows what!! And pressure washing the whole area where they had camped to remove human waste!! after being given verbal permission by Councilor John Hague that's why Swansea council lost the court case to remove them! Just the clean up i believe the sum was in excess of £90,000! Now the cost of the Court case has to be added the supply of toilets and water plus as we all know the cost of a new location for the non Traveling Travelers! Pity this could have been sorted years ago if only we had a city had councilors with! Well a IQ above a squirrel!!

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