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Traveller site pledge 'was given'

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: November 20, 2012

By Nino Williams

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A FOUNDER member of a campaign group opposed to a new traveller's site being developed in Llansamlet in the 1980s insists authority leaders did promise there would be no second site in the ward.

Eurona Phillips was part of the action group which fought against plans by the former West Glamorgan County Council, to develop a travellers' site on The Garth, in Glais.

Following a court battle, she says authority members promised there would be no more than one site for travellers in Llansamlet, in what has since been described as the "West Glamorgan Agreement".

A Swansea Council cabinet meeting was told earlier this month that there were no records of any such agreement.

Councillor June Burtonshaw, cabinet member for place, told colleagues: "In 1986 West Glamorgan considered the location of a gypsy traveller site and based on documents I've seen there was not an agreement at that time preventing another gypsy traveller site in Llansamlet. I haven't been able to see anything in any of the documents."

But that position has been challenged by Ms Phillips.

She said: "Having been an active founder member of the original action group, I can assure you that there was a pledge given by West Glamorgan County Council following the High Court hearing — that prevented such an abomination from taking place — that only one site would be developed in Llansamlet ward.

"Unfortunately, I no longer have the documents, but having been secretary to the original group throughout the lengthy and costly fight against the proposal to use The Garth, I have a clear memory of the outcome of the public inquiry and subsequent High Court judgment."

Campaigners opposed to a second site last night attended a public meeting at Manor Park Hotel in Clydach to discuss the issue.

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  • GSVale  |  November 21 2012, 2:01AM

    Unfortunately I could not make it to the last meeting due to work commitments I have been at the previous ones and the impression I always get is, there is nothing going to stop the council putting it in Llansamlet. If you go on the Swansea vale website they have finally updated it with the new maps and proposals for the area. I have made a little side by side map showing the new proposals for the Swansea Vale area and the location of the proposed "so called travellers site" Map on link below http://tinyurl.com/cflfuc4 The PDF is available on the Swansea Vale website http://tinyurl.com/c8q4a5c The map of the proposed site was borrowed from the LA2TS web site http://tinyurl.com/d6vutvy In the PDF the areas marked PG1,2,3 are detailed as follows PG.1 Safeguard the provision of a Safe Route to Work strategic footpath and cycle route through PG1 to connect Tregof Village to Llansamlet Railway Station. Who is ever going to want to walk through or near a "so called traveller" site. PG.2 Capitalise on accessibility to the M4 in the design, layout and orientation of commercial development, whilst also reflecting the need to deliver access by sustainable modes. What commercial site is ever going to want to set up to a bunch of thieves. PG.3 Ensure that residential development is designed to meet a minimum of Code for Sustainable Homes Level 3 and integrates low and zero carbon technologies as appropriate. Zero Carbon, guess the "so called travellers" creating clouds of black polluting smoke by burning insulation off on stolen cables may impact on this.

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  • Gwyddno  |  November 20 2012, 10:14PM

    A pledge that was so vitally important that she no longer has it and doesn't know where to find it.

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  • lancelot69  |  November 20 2012, 9:54PM

    wow the word was sensored! It said G Y P O ' S

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  • lancelot69  |  November 20 2012, 9:53PM

    Far too many NIMBY's in the council, it's nice to see there are some good ex-councillors out there to support us. I couldn't make the meeting unfortunately but all hail I made sure there were supporters and more to go in my place. Something has to be done! Plus, I'm not prepared to call them travellers anymore, they don't go anywhere, not even Ireland are prepared to take them back, they are plain and simple ****'s who belong in jail. Equal rights? Yeah, they steal, dump waste, don't pay council tax, rip off the elderly etc. If we did that we'd be behind bars, why should we waste our council tax on them.... I could rant all day, so could others who feel the same way

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  • ScottsPit  |  November 20 2012, 5:39PM

    So what, just sit back, let it happen and complain about it when its all done ? The people who are the first to critique are the last to do anything about it. We have to make our feelings known or there will be no way of stopping this. The proposed site is DIRECTLY behind houses on Peniel Green road and is at the start of the entrance to the busiest business hubs in Swansea. There are far more suitable places to house these individuals and the council must be made accountable for these actions. The process has to remain politically correct and tick the boxes. If you have a better way of making feelings known and expressing opinions, then make these known and advise on how to do this.At the moment this is how we have been asked to assist, by the people on a committee set up by residents of Llansamlet who are also directly affected by this.

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  • SWEPuser001  |  November 20 2012, 5:22PM

    I would sign the petition, but what's the point? I give somebody all my details, and for what? This has been going on for years, and I don't see the council or the police getting out of their comfy beds or offices to do anything about it now, regardless of public opinion. Sadly we're ruled by the PC and the Human bloody Rights brigades nowadays,and it seems they have the upper hand. Because they can't be bothered to do anything about it. The poxy gyppos (oh! 'travellers' NO, you're not travellers, you're just b*st*rd parasites!) seem to be taking over. I posted about it a few days ago. Now they've taken over the City Link area. "Residents of Swansea Vale and the Llansamlet ward area MUST make a stand on this." I agree, but what's the point? Nobody's going to take any notice!

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  • dennypip  |  November 20 2012, 5:17PM

    Lizziepip22 - The promise made by West Glam should be honoured by all subsequent administrations regardless of their politics following the dissolution of the 3rd tier of local government - as the promise was made to the constituents of Llansamlet - not simply to one individual - whether it was verbal or written. There are still many people who have a clear memory of events at that time - and who are still counting on the integrity of the present local authority to do the right thing.

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 5:14PM

    ScottsPit i think you'll find west glam ended long ago. What people decided long ago is no longer relevant.

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  • ScottsPit  |  November 20 2012, 4:52PM

    Neathboy234 - exactly what is the point that you are making and how does this affect you ? The agreement was in place and passed by West Glamorgan council in 1986. The public meeting last night covered this in some depth. The ward of Llansamlet already has one permanent site and the proposed site is approx 1 mile from this.. Out of the original list of 1006 sites is seems rather strange why Llansamlet is even under discussion having already played it's part. I ask everyone who feels strongly about this issue to support the campaign and to sign the petition: http://tinyurl.com/bepwldp http://tinyurl.com/d6vutvy Residents of Swansea Vale and the Llansamlet ward area MUST make a stand on this.

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 2:27PM

    authority leaders back in the 1980's can only make promises for themselves. Almost 30 years since then. Just like i can not make a promise for someone who might not even be born today as to what they will do in the year 2038.

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