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Tax change will get us to polls

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: November 20, 2012

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LAST week the people of Wales stayed at home rather than take part in the election of our first police and crime commissioners

We suspect a fair few more will turn out if there is a referendum on tax-making powers for Wales. Nothing rallies voters like the knowledge they are having a direct effect on their own wallets.

The Silk Report recommends the Welsh Government assumes power over half our income tax levy, and a handful of smaller tax revenues.

Of course when voters gave the Assembly more law-making powers it followed, as night follows day, that AMs would want to be able to control how much we pay in tax.

Devolving income tax would be a "fundamental constitutional shift", the Silk report says, in something of an understatement.

The prospect of people in Wales paying income tax at a different rate from their English neighbours makes current differences in health and education policy pale into insignificance.

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 4:40PM

    Stork did u support the rag-tag True Wales, i suspect so lol lol.

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  • GorsseinonJoe  |  November 20 2012, 4:14PM

    The problem we have is that the governing party in Wales want more money from the central government budget BEFORE they support tax raising powers. They are wooing businesses by saying they will not raise taxes but how can taxes be held stable or cut without cuts to public services? The whole point of taxes is to pay for public services, this being the case cuts will have to be made from other services if the NHS and others are going to be "fully funded" as the WAG are always telling us. So where will the money come from to cover annual inflationary rises or does WAG want money from central government for that as well?

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  • Stork  |  November 20 2012, 3:08PM

    Neathboy234 "they shopped the people of Wales". What on earth are you talking about ? Perhaps you could break the habit of a lifetime, and not be incoherent......for once !

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 2:01PM

    Stork you and the rag tag True Wales will have your say. Oh hang on True Wales didn't want anyone to have their say last time that's why they shopped the people of Wales having a letter sent to everyone's house.

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  • Stork  |  November 20 2012, 1:56PM

    If Wales has tax varying powers, we in Wales will pay more tax. It stands to reason, for this will be another tier of officialdom. It doesn't matter how much the politicians in Cardiff Bay bleat about "equality, fairness, local choices, etc." Additional layers of government cost money in salaries, office space, and running costs. If Wales had tax making authority from tomorrow, the existing mechanisms in WAG wouldn't be able to operate, because they wouldn't have a Wales Tax Department, with loads of "Chiefs and Indians". Who pays for that ? We, the taxpayer would. Some people would say that if we got our hands on more tax, we could spend £millions more on "things". Such as a lifetime contract extension of the North Wales-South Wales airlink, and stuff like that. Some people think that Wales is run like a business, and all our profits go to London. Wales is something like a business, one that loses money and is subsidised by London.

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  • leighrichards  |  November 20 2012, 1:55PM

    william if wales gains tax varying powers it will be because the welsh people have supported it via a democratic decision made in a referendum....so it seems its democracy you are actually afraid of...also i would point out to you that working class people in wales are currently being battered by this right wing british government in london....

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  • davidrees  |  November 20 2012, 1:06PM

    About time maybe we can raise the taxes to pay for our hospitals and councils.

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 12:45PM

    williamwaun where u off to, try finding another country that doesn't have tax varying powers, lol lol. PS if you want a lift i'll be more than happy to take u there, along with all the other NO CAN DO's

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 20 2012, 12:42PM

    I am very much in favor of Wales having varying tax powers, i think this is great news and can't come soon enough. It's also great that other tax powers will be devolved to Wales, some as soon as possibly. It's only right that will power should come responsibility. All the major political parties are in favor of Wales gaining these new powers, the Tories, LD, Labour and Plaid are behind this plan. No doubt that rag-tag bunch of losers True Wales will be against it. I just hope that Banner girl is at their helm again, then the Yes campaign can romp home like last time. Fair play to the Tories they have/will deliver law and tax making powers.

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  • williamwaun  |  November 20 2012, 12:36PM

    Extremely frightening to think the assembly one day will have tax raising powers. The working class will again suffer. Time to move away from Wales.

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