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Roundabout way of slowing down speeding drivers

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: June 27, 2013

  • good measure? Traffic calming measures on the roundabout near Asda in Llansamlet and (right) similar measures in Cwmbwrla.

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TRADERS have given a mixed reaction to new 6ft fence panels at a busy Swansea roundabout.

Swansea Council said the central reservation panels on the approaches to the Clase Road/Samlet Road roundabout, Llansamlet, encourage motorists to look ahead rather than to the right.

Council chiefs said the panels help reduce speed and prevent accidents. Similar panels are in place at the Cwmbwrla roundabout in Carmarthen Road.

But workers near the Asda roundabout with the new panels said they needed convincing.

Wendy Johnson, manager of Relaxing Heavenly Yankee Scents in Samlet Road, said: "In a way it could stop accidents, but on the reverse side it's going to cause tailbacks on the main road. It's going to be a distraction."

Dean Collier, the owner of World of aquatics, Samlet Road, said: "They've got their pros and cons. I find them a bit awkward."

Adam Williams, deputy store manager at Smyths Toys, at nearby St David's Retail Park, said he now came to a work via a different route to avoid the fence panels.

In his view the panels were "dangerous". He said: "Your vision is blocked."

But council bosses said the panels worked, as no accidents had been reported at Cwmbwrla roundabout since the work there was completed.

Referring to the Asda roundabout, council head of transport Chris Vinestock said: "Collisions have previously occurred at the site because motorists were looking right instead of looking in front of them.

"This has led to a number of rear end shunts.

"The fencing forces motorists to focus on the car in front so that if any sudden braking occurs they will be able to act more quickly."

The work is being funded via a Welsh Government annual road safety grant.

Councillor June Burtonshaw, cabinet member for place, said: "Motorists travelling along Clase Road towards the roundabout tend to have very clear vision of the roundabout from a long way back and often approach the junction at high speeds.

"These traffic calming measures have been very successful elsewhere in the city where the installation of the panels has prevented any further accidents."

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  • Philosoraptor  |  June 28 2013, 7:19PM

    I've worked in the area for three years, and use it to get to Asda, only seen one accident and that was further up the road going AWAY from the roundabout. This was a waste of money.

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  • GSvale2  |  June 28 2013, 3:02AM

    I am a regular user of the roundabout and I think these panels are making things more dangerous. I have a HGV class 1 licence and also a member of The Institute of Advanced Motorists. The councils reason that it makes people look ahead and not to right completely defeats the purpose of a roundabout. Roundabouts are used to keep the flow of traffic moving, you DO NOT have to stop at a roundabout unless road markings or signs indicate that you have to, in all the years of driving these are few and far between. The main problem with roundabouts is people are not taught how to use them correctly, you do not have to stop, you just give way to traffic to the right of you. These panels now restrict you from reading the road to the right of you, causing you to have to come to a stop at the roundabout. In my opinion this will cause more rear end shunts as the cars and lorries approaching behind will not be expecting to have to come to a stop at the roundabout. They might as well go the whole hog and really cause some major queues by installing traffic lights, Swansea council seem to like traffic lights.

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  • chelsea1955  |  June 27 2013, 8:48PM

    I WALK PAST THIS ROUNDABOUT IN LLANSAMLET 3/4 TIMES A DAY, THE TAILBACKS ARE LONGER THAN NORMAL AND I HAVE NOTICED DRIVERS ARE LOOKING RIGHT MORE THAN IN FRONT AND THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW NEAR REAR END BUMPS, JUST LIKE TAKING AWAY THE ROUNDABOUT OUTSIDE THE MEXICO PUB, LANDORE. THE AMOUT OF TAILBACKS IT AS CAUSED, IF A CAR IS TRYING TO TURN RIGHT CARS ARE USING BUS LANE AMAZED THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CRASHES THERE, WELL DONE COUNCIL ANTI CAR POLICY

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  • Jiffy  |  June 27 2013, 8:21PM

    bennyhill4 - you do know we have Traffic police? They set up the ANPR traps across south Wales to catch 'illegal' cars. As there are now dozens of fixed ANPR cameras, they've got time available to get bad drivers off the road. A few days watching the roads around Llansamlet and they'd have plenty of custom. Getting bad drivers off the road will do the road accident rates a lot of good.

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  • Griffy  |  June 27 2013, 7:09PM

    I NOTICED WITH INTEREST THAT MONEY RECEIVED FROM THE WELSH GOVERNMENT ANNUAL SAFETY GRANT - PERHAPS NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY REALISE HOW OUR LOCAL COUNCIL WASTE SUCH RESOURCES THEY WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT GIVEN SUPPORTING SUCH A LUDICROUS SCHEME. REDUCING THE VISIBILITY OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM ANY DIRECTION IS NOT THE WAY FORWARD TO SAFEGUARDING TRAFFIC FLOW.

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  • bennyhill4  |  June 27 2013, 3:51PM

    jiffy, I agree that there are too many bad drivers on the road. I have lost count of the times I have seen drivers using mobile phones whilst driving, and some drivers must think that they have changed the rules that you stop when traffic lights change to red. It is unbelievable the amount of drivers who jump the red lights. But where I disagree with you is when you say that the police should hang around the roundabout to penalise these motorists. The reason I disagree is because loads of different areas have traffic problems, and if we send our police to stay and watch all these areas then it will be open day for all criminals. The police are stretched enough as it is, and with more cuts on the way they will be stretched even further

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  • Jiffy  |  June 27 2013, 1:48PM

    It's not the roundabout that's at fault, it's the bad drivers, now everyone has to suffer because they can't drive properly. Roundabouts were created to allow traffic to flow. Faffing around like this causes more problems than it solves. It's time the police got on with their job - preventing accidents. They should be waiting at places like this and pulling up the bad drivers and putting points on their licences. There are far too many bad drivers on our roads.

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  • christhejac  |  June 27 2013, 12:17PM

    bennyhill4 - try the asda one. You sound like a rather impatient driver with some anger issues" a bit sad you say that grow up

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  • bennyhill4  |  June 27 2013, 11:45AM

    christhejac, I travel into town via the roundabout at cwmbwrla and have done so for a number of years. Before the introduction of these boards there were numerous accidents there where cars travelling at speed coming down the hill had a quick look to the right and thought they could make it onto the roundabout before the traffic coming from the right. WRONG!!! ACCIDENT!!! Held up for a few hours. I would rather wait in a comparatively small queue and know everyone arrived safely. You sound like a rather impatient driver with some anger issues

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  • christhejac  |  June 27 2013, 10:06AM

    @brochadav - I have to admit, at first I was unsure of these obstacles, but I can see the sense in them now. In fact, maybe they should go further back up the road." Is that so people cant look at cars in the opposite direction?? This roundabout is no different to any other so are you suggesting a total overhaul of the roundabout system in swansea? If speeding onto the roundabout is an issue then put speed cameras there.

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