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Meeting against gypsy site in Swansea forced to move venue after hundreds turn up

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: February 28, 2013

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CAMPAIGNERS against potential traveller sites in Swansea were forced to move a public meeting after hundreds of people attended.

The meeting in the Gorseinon Institute was held to update supporters of a protest movement against two sites, one at Heol y Mynydd and the other at Parc Melin Mynach in Gorseinon, becoming potential homes for travelling communities.

Organiser Cherry Hinton said the meeting attracted more than 500 people.

Mrs Hinton has lived in Grovesend since 1998.

She said: “The meeting was designed to give people information and give pointers as to what they can put on forms that have come out.

“So many people turned up that they were streaming out on to the road.

“We had to move to the Brighton Road Club, which very kindly accommodated us.

“There were between 400 and 500 people.


“The town clerk put forward points on the two sites.

“It was very civilised.”

Further meetings will be held by Gorseinon and Grovesend town councils next week to draw up their objections to the potential sites for travellers.

People living in Swansea have until the end of March to give their views on proposals by Swansea Council to create a second gypsy and traveller site in the city.

Swansea has only one legal site, which is currently full.

The local authority is looking at providing further accommodation.

A three-month consultation is under way, seeking views on work carried out so far in the search for the most appropriate location for the site.

A spokesman for the local authority said: “We would urge residents to get involved in the consultation currently under way in the city.

“Residents have until the end of March to share their views with us about the work carried out so far in the search for a second gypsy and traveller site in Swansea.”

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  • Mr_Reality  |  March 08 2013, 7:55PM

    Tofisgod! I am glad you brought up the issue about previous Melin Mynach travellers and their defecation of own excreta amongst general public areas so that the politically correct traveller supporting hypocrites and imbeciles can read about it. I am also glad of previous truthful newspaper reporting about the fly-tipping of tons of dug up driveway rubble, left over hardened tarmac, refuge, and anti social behaviour etc. Apparently according to your average politically correct hypocrite the traveller subculture is more deserving of council tax payer money and preferential treatment because of an accusation of general public prejudice. The question to these politically correct hypocrites, imbeciles, and supporters is? Do you think the totally sub-human act of repeat defecation of excreta and blatant refusal to clean up is something that will in itself cause prejudice. If not! Is it because that behavioural standard is something you condone, applaud, and accept as normal human behaviour or to perish the very thought………. Something you partake in yourself?

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  • Tofisgod  |  March 08 2013, 2:36PM

    I can not wait for them to arrive and defecate in Penyrheol swimming pool again and use the facilities for washing. I also love used nappies left in the changing rooms such a delight to see.

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  • Mr_Reality  |  February 28 2013, 10:59PM

    The people of Gorseinon/Swansea should take their case to The European Court Of Human Rights because the loss of value on personal property/negative equity caused by someone else's unwanted and unasked for decision making is an infringement of basic human rights. Each and every decision maker, council, and council employee that decides on traveller site location(s) should be personally sued by each and every Swansea householder in the circumstance(s) where their property sees a loss in value. Justice for the ordinary decent people!

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  • provoked  |  February 28 2013, 5:58PM

    Dear Sir/Ms....... I send you a copy of letter sent to Swansea Civic Centre. Gypsy & Traveller Consultation , City & County Of Swansea, Room G5.2,Civic Centre, Oystermouth Road, Swansea, SA1 3SN. Date :--- 18 march 2013 Regarding the Gorseinon Permanent Gipsy & Travellers Site Dear Sir, Ms May I draw your attention to " The Law of Unintended Consequences ". With the continuing stream of immigration, which is creating a demand for more and more house development nationally, to allow the creation of a gipsy & travellers PERMANENT SITE in the designated areas namely, Melin Mynach and the proposed Penyrheol Cemetery,would be a wrong move.. May I draw your attention the some of the law relating to the catering for gipsy & traveller needs . http://tinyurl.com/cfew5fu Page 17 6.2. Who is a Gypsy? The question of who is a Gypsy has remained one of the most enduring of sedentary obsessions that has attended Gypsies' long experience of discrimination in Europe.70 Nowhere is this more apparent than in the field of jurisprudence. The lead case on Gypsy status before the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) was passed was that of R v South Hams DC ex parte Gibb et al,71 a case which considered whether the Travellers involved could be accepted as Gypsies for the purposes of the former site provision duty found in the (now partly repealed) Caravan Sites Act 1968. Gypsies are defined in law as 'persons of a nomadic habit of life, whatever their race or origin.'72 In assessing Gypsy status, the Court of Appeal found the following matters to be relevant: Page 18 6.3. Too ill to be a Gypsy? In tandem with defining who is a Gypsy, the courts have also had to address the question of whether an individual can lose her/his Gypsy status, particularly in relation to cases where ill health has led to Gypsies and Travellers not being able to travel. Despite the issues being considered in both the High Court and the Court of Appeal, some matters are still far from clear. Read on .............. Page 19 Still too ill to be a Gypsy? Soon after Berry was heard, the High Court once again considered a challenge to Gypsy status in a planning matter in the case of O'Connor v the First Secretary of State and Bath & NE Somerset.75 This time the case involved an Inspector's decision that the Traveller concerned was not a Gypsy because she had become too ill to travel. The judge decided that it was not enough, as the Inspector did in this case, to focus on the travelling currently being undertaken or likely to be undertaken in the future, but the Inspector should instead consider such circumstances as: Read on.................. End Further consider :--------- http://tinyurl.com/cx3mjvc We're on our way to Britain: In a year up to 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians will have the right to settle in Britain and... Quote ….And these gypsies in the slums of Sofia can hardly wait...Unquote Consider this also :---------http://tinyurl.com/3xkk9lt Quote.......France sends Roma Gypsies back to Romania ….....Unquote END With open borders could Goresinon end up with droves of European Gypsies & Travellers. With more pressure to increase the size of the site to accommodate the increasing number that could turn up the local inhabitants picking up the tax bill

  • Philosoraptor  |  February 28 2013, 11:51AM

    My view is no more caravan sites for these specially over priveliged groups and force them on to the council housing list like everybody else. That way they can spend 9 years waiting for assistance as tax payers are forced to.

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