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IRB asked to review Ospreys' conduct

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: February 21, 2013

By richard youle

  • planning row Ospreys unveil their RWE sponsorship deal in 2010 and (inset) Ioan Richard.

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A COUNCILLOR has reported the Ospreys to the International Rugby Board for what he claimed was inappropriate involvement in a council planning meeting — but denied it was sour grapes.

Ioan Richard alleged the Ospreys could be in conflict with an IRB byelaw regarding discrimination "against a country, private person or groups of people on account of ethnic origin, gender, language, religion, politics or any other reason".

It follows a planning meeting in which Andrew Hore, who is the Ospreys chief operations officer, spoke in favour of RWE npower renewables' Mynydd y Gwair wind farm application. Councillors went on to approve the scheme in a tight vote. The wind farm will be built in Mr Richard's Mawr ward, while RWE is the Ospreys' main sponsor.

Wind power opponent Mr Richard attended the meeting but left early having declared a prejudicial interest in the application.

Several councillors declared a personal interest when Mr Hore spoke as they were Ospreys season ticket holders or had involvement in the organisation that runs the Liberty Stadium. This did not preclude them from taking part in the debate and voting.

Mr Richard said in 27 years he had never seen a sports club representative seek support for a scheme other than for something like a new club shower block.

He said there was disgust in Mawr regarding the February 7 meeting, and has asked the IRB to determine if there had been any inappropriate conduct on behalf of the Ospreys. The IRB and the Ospreys said they had no comment to make.

Councillor Mark Child, who voted in favour of the wind farm, said he felt it was up to the supporters and opponents of a scheme to put their case forward as they saw fit, including who they chose to speak.

"I thought both presentations (opponents and supporters) were good, and I think there was generally a very good debate in the chamber," said Mr Child. "I think the process ran very well."

Planning officers had recommended the wind farm for approval — and councillors were told the authority would face a hefty bill if they refused the application and then lost a planning appeal.

The application had 1,263 letters of objection — plus two petitions — and 504 letters of support.

Mr Richard rejected a suggestion that his actions were sour grapes, maintaining that, in his view, Mr Hore's participation was "highly inappropriate".

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  • Spideyjonesy  |  February 22 2013, 1:28PM

    I'm not asking your advice , I'm asking you a rhetorical question but your over inflated ego and false sense of self worth made you jump to the wrong conclusion. As I said I'm in my 70's and iVe yet to ask for a valley boy for any advice in my life and I don;t intend to start now, Worry about your small towns and leave the business of swansea to the big city folk you can only aspire to emulate ps a word of advice for young man self praise is no recommendation so stop blowing your own trumpet son

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  • NeathPTboy  |  February 22 2013, 10:44AM

    Spideyjonesy:- Quote 'don't you seriously think the wind farms of 2013 maybe slightly better than than those of the 17th century?' So you're asking me for advice now.....funny how your attitude has changed....and to answer your question, how can something that relies on an intermittent element (ie. the wind) be any better in this century than it was 2,3 or 4 centuries ago, even you know that the wind has got to blow at just the right speed in order to mill grain or generate electricity, too slow and nothing happens, too fast or gusty and the machine must be turned off. You need to take into account that the way the wind behaves hasn't altered a single bit in the last 300 or so years, and is without doubt the most unreliable means of generating electricity to supply an entire nation with its daily needs. There are just under 4500 on and off-shore unreliable wind turbines around the UK that are currently producing 1492MW, a minuscule 3% of our current requirements of 49767MW....and we are all paying for these useless machines to be stuck up all around the UK.....you may be stupid but i'm not, and i'm fed up of having to pay extra on my bills to subsidize this b******t just in order for the rich to get richer, because that is how the real world is working right now.

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  • Spideyjonesy  |  February 22 2013, 9:21AM

    daniel speaking of self interest would you be a scarlets fan by any chance? looking for a any chance to geta cheap dig in at Mr Hoare and the ospreys? guess that 32-3 hiding still bothers you eh son?

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  • Spideyjonesy  |  February 22 2013, 9:19AM

    Neef lad, sparfe me teh lecture son i know the real world works. You may have read a few books about councills but that doesn;t make you bamaber gascoine or even paul gascoine come to think of that. don't you seriously think the wind farms of 2013 maybe slightly better than than those of the 17th century? anyhow worry about your own tin pot towna nd leave us big city folk to run swansea theres a good girl

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  • Dan01  |  February 21 2013, 2:58PM

    NeathPTboy, have to confess that I am always happy to see the Ospreys having a hiding, so no season ticket here.!

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  • NeathPTboy  |  February 21 2013, 2:47PM

    Spideyjonesy: I wasn't giving you advice, I was educating your deluded and outdated intellect in order to bring you up to date, but judging you on your last comment it was clearly a waste of time as there is no hope for someone of your intelligence......you weren't one of the councillors with a season ticket that voted in favour by any chance. Dan01: His involvement was exactly as you say, and in answer to your question, it does appear that the Ospreys are far more important than renewable energy and the environment, it's an absolute farce and stinks of corruption.

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  • Dan01  |  February 21 2013, 2:33PM

    Funny how nobody on here comments on Andrew Hore's involvement. His involvement was purely self interest (via the club) . This was all about money and nothing to do with principle. Heaven help us if the Ospreys is now more important than a debate regarding renewable energy and the environment.

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  • Spideyjonesy  |  February 21 2013, 1:02PM

    Neath PT boy worry about need and port tablet. I have more than enough stashed away to pay my bills and watch my team. If i needed advice from a vally boy I'll ask for it

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  • NeathPTboy  |  February 21 2013, 12:53PM

    kasparov44: Yes I know, it's beggars belief why a councillor would speak out when he knows he's immediately excluding himself from a right to vote, foolish. ArthurRittick: Aye them's the rules in this 'domocratic' council, the whole PDCC rules are absolute nonsense, but atleast in Swansea meetings an objector and applicant can take the stand and speak for 15mins which is more than Neath Port Talbot PDCC offer, an even less democratic system in this borough.

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  • NeathPTboy  |  February 21 2013, 12:45PM

    Spideyjonesy, don't you mean more money to renewable energy sources, it's the constant flow of ridiculous sbsidies to unreliable renewable energy that's causing the huge increases in our household electricity bills, so if you support unreliable wind energy then you also support increased electricity bills, you won't be able to afford to watch the Ospreys before long because your electricity bills will be taking a huge chunk of your income.

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