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Alcohol price measures 'not enough'

By South Wales Evening Post  |  Posted: November 29, 2012

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PLANS for a minimum price for alcohol have been welcomed by the Welsh Government — though Cardiff Bay has said they do not go far enough.

Westminster has launched a public consultation on introducing a minimum 45p per unit price for alcohol in Wales and England in an attempt to curb binge drinking and booze-fuelled anti-social behaviour.

The Home Office is also considering banning multi-buy promotions in shops.

The 45p proposal is 5p higher than the figure suggested by ministers in March — but the Welsh Government has said it would like to see a 50p minimum introduced, as the Scottish Government is proposing.

A Welsh Government spokesman said: “Whilst the UK Government proposals to introduce a minimum price of 45p per unit of alcohol is a step in the right direction, we believe they do not go far enough and need to be set at a level that will have most impact on those vulnerable groups who consume alcohol excessively, namely 50p per unit of alcohol.

“As devolution of alcohol licensing is not devolved to Wales, we will be feeding into the consultation to make our views known.”

He added that Cardiff Bay was also running a campaign called “Don’t let drink sneak up on you” to raise awareness of the dangers of drink.

The Home Office said the targets of the proposed policy were “harmful drinkers and irresponsible shops”, adding that “those who enjoy a quiet drink or two have nothing to fear from our proposals.”

The 45p minimum would mean a can of strong lager could not be sold for less than £1.56, and a bottle of wine below £4.22.

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  • Gwyddno  |  November 30 2012, 10:00PM

    gengis You'll spit on the supporters of Granny State during her Diamond Jubilee? Filthy habit, spitting. You need a knee in the cossacks.

  • gengis  |  November 30 2012, 9:49PM

    neathboy said, "i don't assume that i know best for U, but Westminster does and on both counts. We live by the rules my little mongolian friend lol, and that includes u ha ha ha" Westminster does NOT know whats best for me and I do not need obnoxious and contemptible know-it-alls dictating or insinuating what I can or cannot do. I utterly reject the granny state and spit on its supporters.It is my life and I will live it as I see fit .

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  • gengis  |  November 30 2012, 9:30PM

    "...just like we are planning to do with cheap booze. Next question!" Do you actually work for the conservative party or is your personal vendetta against smokers, drug takers, drinkers and the obese just a labour of love neathboy? "flawed in your eyes no doubt" Whereas in your eyes everything that comes out of westminster is crystal clear, honest, open and the god-honest truth, is that what you believe?

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 30 2012, 5:59PM

    brochadav flawed in your eyes no doubt.

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  • brochadav  |  November 30 2012, 5:11PM

    Neathboy, the government always put out stats to back up their case, and they are nearly always flawed. Always spun to make the best argument for what they want. Speed cameras that don't save lives, they were just to make money. I could go on but what's the point. The biggest binge drinking goes on at the weekends in places like wind street and this minimum price won't affect pubs as they are already charging a whole lot more for alcohol. If anyone thinks an alcoholic will cut back on drinking because of this they are bonkers. I tell you what neathboy, we'll wait and see. If I'm wrong I will gladly apologise. Will you do the same?

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  • Dr_Conker  |  November 30 2012, 2:24PM

    "not sure if u have noticed but here in the UK we are spending £120 billion more than we are earning. Only way to correct this is to put taxes up a lot " Didnt George Osborne say that recently..? He's an arrogant fool! Dont you think that people need to be spending more money in order for the economy to grow - but they cant spend money they havent got, so the economy will continue to be in recession and the less well off will continue to struggle.

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  • Neathboy234  |  November 30 2012, 2:21PM

    Dr_Conker no they shouldn't be closed but heavily taxed, just like we are planning to do with cheap booze. Next question!

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  • Dr_Conker  |  November 30 2012, 2:15PM

    I'm very overweight and because I'm weak and depressed because I lost my job and my 3 kids got taken from me, I enjoy eating and cant stop. Should places like Mcdonalds not be shut down for the good of my health and all BOGOF's and other offers in the supermarkets be discontinued so I cant afford to eat as much?

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  • Eric_Pode  |  November 30 2012, 10:08AM

    Of course, setting a minimum price for alcohol is exactly the same as driving at 150-105 mph - Any fool would know that, especially as some drinks cost only 20pence per unit. Just as doubling the price of petrol will reduce binge drinking - It all makes sense. And Those who fail to read above that a can of strong lager will cost a min of £1.56 - I mean how can I ignore it and buy a bottle of single malt without feeling guilty? And These people who support the ban on fox hunting: They're all vegetarians and Hitler was a vegetarian - So it must be true. And Have you noticed that these climate change people are saying that 10 trillion tonnes of ice have disappeared from the polar regions in the last 10 years? Why then is it so cold today eh and where have the thieves stashed the ice? Don't the Iceland police have any leads? And Remember that Drinka Pinta Muscadet advert? - That didn't work either. I am not mad.

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  • muld00ns  |  November 30 2012, 9:30AM

    How wrong some of you are on here! I know someone who was an alcoholic, to feed his drink habbit he would steal from his family and tell lie after lie. Eventually and thankful he realised he needed help. With his sons help he visited councilling sessions and now is recovering. Like someone mentioned an alcoholic is like someone on heroin they need the fix and will find the money. Why should I let this government tell me what I should and should drink, I am a responsible person and I know my limits. If I step over them 'I' pay for them! This stance from the government is like that solicitor that blamed bars and clubs for forcing his client into drinking 3 pints and then turning the keys in the ignition of his car forcing his to drive it home! People saying its not going to bring in more tax well, if I think I disagree - you charge £1 a can at 20% VAT works out 17p a can, charging £2 a can will bring in revenue of 33p a can so how can you say it won't bring in more tax?! The final point I would like to bring to the table is what is the percentage of sensible drink against irresponsible drinkers? No one is asking that question. I doubt it's very high, but I would like proof from the government so at least any plan can be justified.